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everyone:
what are your thoughts on meat eating and vegetarianism/veganism in terms of health and internal cleanliness....
i've been to scandinavia, for example. they tend to be in really great shape and they eat meat.
any thoughts?
what are your thoughts on meat eating and vegetarianism/veganism in terms of health and internal cleanliness....
i've been to scandinavia, for example. they tend to be in really great shape and they eat meat.
any thoughts?
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Re: thoughts on meat and vegetarianism/veganism
Thu, September 29, 2005 - 3:14 PMoff all diets i have looked at the one thing that is viewed as evil is processed crap. so if its processed be it meat or be it plant based its probably not good for you.
and it makes sense. our bodies are alive because they have learned to digest plants or meats that were available to us with cooking being the only processing for a long time.
i also think that its what you are eating in amounts or portions. (the combo)
meat is bad in the sense that it is higher on the food chain so it is going to be more toxic and then the people that eat alot of meat do not get enough fiber to scrape it all out and to pull toxins out of our system.
i personally feel best as rotating things i eat. if i go all veggie i eventually end up feeling sick. -
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Re: thoughts on meat and vegetarianism/veganism
Thu, September 29, 2005 - 6:52 PMViolet,
very insightful response. thanks. the rotation suggestion is very good.
thanks
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Re: thoughts on meat and vegetarianism/veganism
Thu, September 29, 2005 - 8:48 PMI think it depends on what the body can digest vs what it needs to stay healthy (sort of the opposite of lactose intollerance, gluten allergy, etc)....
almost nobody can digest pppprocessed anything.
Vegan make me ill...
vegetarian I can do for months before I break down and eat some animal, fish or bird (once and then not again for months)...
daily meat makes me ill.
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Re: thoughts on meat and vegetarianism/veganism
Thu, November 24, 2005 - 10:39 AManimal carcass?
i don't see any doubt in whether putting that in the body could do you any good.
theres plenty of research on how our bodies overwhelmingly don't seem to be 'designed' for eating meat.
humans are resilient creatures. people can have all kinds of horrible eating habits but somehow live to old age/have good health by also eating foods that are good, maybe exercise, lack of pollution . ,,
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Re: thoughts on meat and vegetarianism/veganism
Mon, November 28, 2005 - 1:21 PMyes here some info here
Summary
Facial Muscles
CARNIVORE: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
HERBIVORE: Well-developed
OMNIVORE: Reduced
HUMAN: Well-developed
Jaw Type
CARNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HERBIVORE: Expanded angle
OMNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HUMAN: Expanded angle
Jaw Joint Location
CARNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HERBIVORE: Above the plane of the molars
OMNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HUMAN: Above the plane of the molars
Jaw Motion
CARNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
HERBIVORE: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
OMNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
HUMAN: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
Major Jaw Muscles
CARNIVORE: Temporalis
HERBIVORE: Masseter and pterygoids
OMNIVORE: Temporalis
HUMAN: Masseter and pterygoids
Mouth Opening vs. Head Size
CARNIVORE: Large
HERBIVORE: Small
OMNIVORE: Large
HUMAN: Small
Teeth: Incisors
CARNIVORE: Short and pointed
HERBIVORE: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
OMNIVORE: Short and pointed
HUMAN: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
Teeth: Canines
CARNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HERBIVORE: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
OMNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HUMAN: Short and blunted
Teeth: Molars
CARNIVORE: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
HERBIVORE: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
OMNIVORE: Sharp blades and/or flattened
HUMAN: Flattened with nodular cusps
Chewing
CARNIVORE: None; swallows food whole
HERBIVORE: Extensive chewing necessary
OMNIVORE: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
HUMAN: Extensive chewing necessary
Saliva
CARNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HERBIVORE: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
OMNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HUMAN: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
Stomach Type
CARNIVORE: Simple
HERBIVORE: Simple or multiple chambers
OMNIVORE: Simple
HUMAN: Simple
Stomach Acidity
CARNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HERBIVORE: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
OMNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HUMAN: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
Stomach Capacity
CARNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HERBIVORE: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
OMNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract
Length of Small Intestine
CARNIVORE: 3 to 6 times body length
HERBIVORE: 10 to more than 12 times body length
OMNIVORE: 4 to 6 times body length
HUMAN: 10 to 11 times body length
Colon
CARNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HERBIVORE: Long, complex; may be sacculated
OMNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HUMAN: Long, sacculated
Liver
CARNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HERBIVORE: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
OMNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HUMAN: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
Kidney
CARNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HERBIVORE: Moderately concentrated urine
OMNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HUMAN: Moderately concentrated urine
Nails
CARNIVORE: Sharp claws
HERBIVORE: Flattened nails or blunt hooves
OMNIVORE: Sharp claws
HUMAN: Flattened nails -
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Re: thoughts on meat and vegetarianism/veganism
Fri, December 9, 2005 - 7:30 PMEuro food is a totallly different animal. the meat is fresh fromt he butcher.
Foods are grown locally. Where my sister lives they have curbside composting
that is used on the local farms and if you don't compost they fine you for not
doing so.
In Germany, many people only eat what is in season. In america, we have the
luxury of eating foods that we have no idea where it came from or what it is
in it. During the summer people will get deliveries each week of fresh vegetables from a local grower. In America, big cororate farms feed us.
I grew up with a 30ft x 100ft garden that we worked all summer. We froze
peas, beans, carrots, etc. I can't stand the vegetables in the supermarket.
It doesn't taste right.
I think the important thing to eating healthy is to eat a good mix of fresh
foods. Meat is fine, but choose wisely. Don't eat 3 hours before bed time
was some of the best advice I've ever gotten. If you do your body
spends the night digesting instead of healing itself. Ever eat a ton of food
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Re: thoughts on meat and vegetarianism/veganism
Sat, December 10, 2005 - 6:53 AM"I can't stand the vegetables in the supermarket.
It doesn't taste right. "
doesnt that just totally piss you off? i hate and love being spoiled by the freshness of a home garden. tomatos dont even taste like the same thing to me texture and flavor (home vs.store)
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